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/pol/ Anonymous Admin 39516[Reply]

For the time being, please stop making new threads about racial topics (including preferences, nationalities, and stereotypes). Use the existing threads and keep discussion civil.


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Anonymous 54961[Reply]

So, a couple days ago I came across pic related (https://time.com/3748019/same-sex-couples-biological-children/?fbclid=IwAR1-CeReWcWbIQrlZmj-b0iev-RqnIDHhM_93vZIYW24R3UTeB2Ft2eCjn4)

I've also been reading into artificial wombs and womb transplants. To me, all of these seem to be dangerous and go in a opposite direction to what we want with feminism, but I was surprised to see that most of my fellow radfems are actually favoring of these things, starting with that schizo Shulamith Firestone. Since I'm ignorant on these topics, I would like to know your opinion and have somebody shed a light on these for me
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Anonymous 55014

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This whole thread reads like /mgtow/ posting.
>reee we'll be the baby makers, male emancipation from women ree

First off, Less people are having children in general. You're assuming most women want to have children in the first place. Regardless, I don't see how a child will solve your hang-ups with women, but ok. Even if the wombs were to become a thing, I'm sure a with it will come a shitton of laws and regulations. See: adoption
Newsflash, Children are not a commodity.

>just ignore the exploitation of womens' bodies

To separate the production from the demand is beyond stupid.

>Men hate women

Yes.
>Sauce
https://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/ending-violence-against-women/facts-and-figures

Anonymous 55015

I encourage troons in their pursuit of uterus transplants because it will kill them. These retards think organs snap on and off like pronoun pins. Let them find out the hard way that histocompatibility doesn't give a fuck how you identify.

Anonymous 55016

>>55015
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Anonymous 55017

as long as the procedure is safe and the organ donation is 100% ethical. this could be a step in an awesome direction.

Anonymous 55018

>>55014

Literally made a post about how artificial reproduction is dangerous to women and how men are gonna benefit from it SO I can discuss about it other women

>"This whole thread reads like /mgtow/ posting to me"


>You're assuming most women want to have children in the first place


Where did I say this

>Even if the wombs were to become a thing, I'm sure a with it will come a shitton of laws and regulations


yeaehh! the government is always looking out for us uhhh… they want the best for us

>See: adoption

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I wonder how many people here are men larping Anonymous 54338[Reply]

like damn,a lot of posts mirror the stupid shit i see on /b/ or /r9k/ in a frightening way,it's a good thing this community is a little more regulated
lol
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Anonymous 54980

>>54347
>consensual romantic rape
wha?

Anonymous 55002

>>54980
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_seduction

https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/forced-seduction-rape

Basically

>she says no but secretly she loves it


All romance novels written by women for women into that.

Anonymous 55008

>>54652

>Just because you like to call your boyfriend daddy doesn't mean the rest of us do.


Kek

Anonymous 55009

>>54652
This board is full of sexually submissive moids, who of course HATE sexually submissive women

Anonymous 55010

>>55009

I can assure u I'm not a moid. Calling your boyfriend "daddy" is beyond pathetic. Not everyone enjoys being sexually submisse I can tell you that. You are dumb



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Anonymous 54368[Reply]

there are only two genders- change my mind
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Anonymous 54974

>>54962
>Before I go any further, are you trying to argue that their mental illness doesn't exist in the first place
No. I’m not saying dysphoria doesn’t exist, I’m saying that the concept of gender itself does not exist. There is only sex.
>There shouldn't be any difference in clothing, speech, looks, jobs, restroom facilities or changing rooms.
Nope! Not what I said, but nice strawman. Sex is 100% real. I’m just saying that the concept of gender and having a “gender identity” is not real. Men who pretend to be women should not be allowed in women’s restrooms.
>The same way a woman who grows a beard feels that she isn't very womanly. The same way a women who doesn't have any breasts doesn't feel womanly.
No, actually, it’s not the same thing. “Not feeling womanly” and quite literally believing that you ARE a MAN are two different things. I don’t think you’re understanding me. A TiM doesn’t just feel “feminine,” he literally feels that he is a woman because he “feels” that he is. Have you ever seen them parrot the phrase “transwomen are women”? They quite literally believe that they are women, not that they are just “womanly.”
>Are unusual results excluded only because they are unusual?
They’re excluded in this discussion because the vast majority of all humans on earth do not have intersex conditions. Sure, you could say that there are people with such intersex deformities that makes them essentially “sexless.” But people with intersex disorders are not relevant to the discussion of whether or not sex exists. Sex is real.
>There's a /feels/ thread that has literally that for an OP.
Holy shit you’re dense. She is just stating a bunch of gender stereotypes about women and saying she identifies with them. Again, you are confusing GENDER stereotypes with sex. The things written in that thread would not be the same thing a TiM would say he feels. You cannot FEEL like you are another sex. You can have the delusion that you do (dysphoria), but they are not actually feeling what it’s like to be a woman.
>Because if we start heading that way, we have to agree that the feelings of "happiness" and "sadness" don't exist either. They're just reactions based on chemicals using tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Anonymous 54998

>>54974
>No. I’m not saying dysphoria doesn’t exist,
Alright, we've established that much, we can agree that dysphoria is occurring, now, what do you believe is causing this dysphoria? Also, what do you believe is the proper treatment?
>I’m saying that the concept of gender itself does not exist. There is only sex.
and this goes back to the transgeder transsexual dichotomy.
>Nope! Not what I said, but nice strawman. Sex is 100% real. I’m just saying that the concept of gender and having a “gender identity” is not real. Men who pretend to be women should not be allowed in women’s restrooms.
I agree, sex is real, gender isn't, any distinction made by society on sex, should be abolished. Unless, you're stating that the bathroom split is not based on gender, but rather sex?
>No, actually, it’s not the same thing. “Not feeling womanly” and quite literally believing that you ARE a MAN are two different things. A TiM doesn’t just feel “feminine,” he literally feels that he is a woman because he “feels” that he is.
>he feels that he is a woman because he feels that he is.
I'm pretty sure you didn't commit circular logic intentionally, so, what did you actually mean?
>They’re excluded in this discussion because the vast majority of all humans on earth do not have intersex conditions.
A vast majority does not erase the minority.
>Sure, you could say that there are people with such intersex deformities that makes them essentially “sexless.”
I never made this assertion, I stated this assertion is a result of exclusively using chromosomes to determine sex. I made the assertion that there are multiple factors that contribute to sex, namely, chromosomes, hormones, genitalia and secondary sexual characteristics. However, if you want me to follow this premise, that all "intersex individuals" are sexless. I can proceed with that as well.
>But people with intersex disorders are not relevant to the discussion of whether or not sex exists. Sex is real.
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Anonymous 54999

>>54998
>any distinction made by society on sex, should be abolished.
*on gender

Anonymous 55012

>>54998
I almost want to give up, because you’re seemingly intentionally misinterpreting everything I’m saying.

>what do you believe is causing this dysphoria? Also, what do you believe is the proper treatment?

I don’t know the answer to either of these things, and I don’t pretend to. What I do know, however, is that womanhood isn’t some mysterious “feeling” that only TiMs feel.
>and this goes back to the transgeder transsexual dichotomy.
No it doesn’t. They are both equally invalid. There is no such thing as having the feeling of “being another sex.”
>Unless, you're stating that the bathroom split is not based on gender, but rather sex?
Yes, I think every sane person understands that the bathroom split is due to sex.
>I'm pretty sure you didn't commit circular logic intentionally, so, what did you actually mean?
I meant that a TiM will state that he is a woman because he literally believes that he IS a woman, due to an indescribable feeling in his brain. He claims that this feeling (delusion) is what makes him a woman, even though actual women don’t have this feeling.
>I never made this assertion, I stated this assertion is a result of exclusively using chromosomes to determine sex. I made the assertion that there are multiple factors that contribute to sex, namely, chromosomes, hormones, genitalia
I never said that only chromosomes should determine sex. However, in the vast majority of cases, chromosomes can be used to determine an individual’s sex. Even though you insist that this is somehow relevant to transgender issues, people with intersex disorders don’t have anything to do with transgenderism/transsexualism.
>Sex is real, sex is not exclusively defined by chromosomes.
I agree with this.
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Anonymous 55013

>>54998
Samefag but forgot to address this:
>I believe you just asserted that all of transsexuals are delusional. Using that assertion, if they're not feeling like a woman, what are they feeling like?
I don’t know what they’re feeling because I don’t have dysphoria. What I do know is that there is no magical “feeling” or “essence” that men and women feel, that makes them men and women. Only your sex can make you a man or woman.



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Politics Anonymous 54699[Reply]

anything you want to say you can say here regarding politics.
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Anonymous 54981

>>54977
>So you admit you were wrong and don't understand basic english? Good.
I think I just got you to admit you were calling prison rape good if you're agreeing with me, so I guess I'm doing fine.
> You failed to show me a something I said that could even be interpreted as "prison rape is bad
Oh are we going in the direction of determining whether or not something can or can not be "interpreted" a certain way? Are you the arbitrator on that? I'm pretty sure an important part of communication is how other people receive the message.
> God, you're so stupid, stubborn and annoying.
Again, so much name calling when I haven't accused you of anything in return. Why attempt to be so hurtful? Does attempting to inflict emotional produce a greater amount of happiness for you then it causes the other person sadness? I think you could produce greater happiness by following your own advice and leaving.

Anonymous 54982

>>54981
>Does attempting to inflict emotional produce
*emotional harm

Anonymous 54985

>>54981
>I think I just got you to admit you were calling prison rape good if you're agreeing with me
Are you to the point where you're straight up claiming things that never happened? You literally just contradicted yourself and I never agreed with you.

>Oh are we going in the direction of determining whether or not something can or can not be "interpreted" a certain way? Are you the arbitrator on that? I'm pretty sure an important part of communication is how other people receive the message.

Words have definition you moron. There's only so many ways a text can be correctly interpreted in. Although I guess that's a foreign concept to you, since you don't seem to communicate in english, but a weird version of each where you make up arbitrary rules. So go on. Show me where I said something that can be interpreted as me saying "prison rape is good".

>Does attempting to inflict emotional produce a greater amount of happiness for you then it causes the other person sadness?

Oh no, you completely changed my worldview, we're all about punitive justice baby. Your existence is proof that striving for overall happiness is a silly and naive ideal and instead we should disregard the feelings of stupid and malevolent people.

Also nice job ignoring that part where I showed you that I said from the very start that I don't claim prison rape is good or bad and you were too stupid or stubborn to understand it which caused this whole argument. I like how even with all the mental gymnastic and word twisting you try to do you couldn't find a reply to that. And yet you wouldn't admit that you were wrong. So I'll keep calling you a stupid, stubborn idiot.

Anonymous 54993

>>54912
Physics isn't deterministic (for example, look at quantum field theory). Or, perhaps it's more accurate to say that physics isn't deterministic to agents living in the universe (so effectively indeterministic). We've known this since the early 20th century, so this is hardly a new idea.

>>54916
Yes, by "mathematical chaos" I mean "chaos" as used in such fields as chaos theory.

Free-will's ontological characteristic is the introduction of inherent uncertainty into otherwise deterministic systems. (This idea might seem counter-intuitive as a definition, but it will seem clear if you think it through). The output of a chaotic function is also inherently uncertain to any agent, the sole characteristic of free will, making the output of such a function substantively equivalent to the output of a function that has free-will. (You can argue that "ok, so it's inherently uncertain to an agent, but what about the universe outside of agency?", to which I would reply that if you're talking about something no agent can possibly observe, then you're moving towards religious-metaphysics). This doesn't break causality, nor does it imply anything about the deterministic nature of our universe. It's free-will out of determinism. And indeed, it actually turns out that you can't study biological systems in a typically-deterministic fashion, precisely becuase the systems are chaotic (Dr. Robert Sapolsky has a wonderful lecture on this exact topic, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_njf8jwEGRo).

Anonymous 54994

>>54985
>Are you to the point where you're straight up claiming things that never happened?
>Also nice job ignoring that part where I showed you that I said from the very start
Oh I'm sorry, left me rectify that.
>sounds like it is in contradiction with
>>This is labeling it as a good thing
I'm drawing conclusions from your post. You're stated a qualifier adds a quality to a previously mentioned subject, in this case "prison rape". What quality was added to "prison rape" in that original sentence? "it's good if it deters crime". Now I am of the firm belief the prison rape does deter crime to a certain extent, so we can remove the "if" clause. This makes it so you said the subject, "prison rape" has the quality added to it of "goodness". If you don't believe that, why did you say that? Unless you were saying nothing. And if you were saying nothing, why say anything at all?

>Show me where I said something that can be interpreted as me saying "prison rape is good".

I already did, but it's not you I'm trying to convince.

>Oh no, you completely changed my worldview, we're all about punitive justice baby. Your existence is proof that striving for overall happiness is a silly and naive ideal and instead we should disregard the feelings of stupid and malevolent people.

Wow, that is a very strange stance to take. Did it really only take that much to remove your belief in utilitarian philosophy? I would say I'm flattered, but I really don't think I've disproved the entirety of utilitarianism. Please don't exaggerate.

>So I'll keep calling you a stupid, stubborn idiot.

Again slinging insults, why do you try to be so hurtful? I feel like I'm the one being trolled here.



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I want to be a Christian but I'm so confused and conflicted Anonymous 29213[Reply]

I want to love Jesus Christ and our Lord but I'm just so conflicted. I mean, I DO love jesus and our lord but is it really worth it? I can't decide whether I want to believe that the bible is just nonsense and just early people trying to explain how the world works and creating morals, or if I should believe that god exists and loves us and stop doing some of the things I enjoy doing to have god's love to get into heaven. Christianity says no to many things that I've never really had a problem with and think is normal and sometimes enjoy. Like sex just for pleasure (I'm a lesbian, I had sex with my wife not too long ago. And that's another question, if we're married is it ok?), masturbation, lustful thinking, using marijuana recreationally, etc. And if I can't do these things and decide to follow god, if god doesn't really exist, I'll be doing it for nothing. I just don't know. Can I please get some advice? What do you guys think?
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Anonymous 52353

>>52347
Even if they’re the same god, each of those religions have different beliefs and principals. There are also the Greek gods, forgotten religions of ancient societies, Hinduism, Indigenous gods, etc… How would you know that you are subscribed to the “correct” one?

Anonymous 52593

>>29213
>I can't decide whether I want to believe that the bible is just nonsense and just early people trying to explain how the world works and creating morals, or if I should believe that god exists and loves us and stop doing some of the things I enjoy doing to have god's love to get into heaven.
Welcome to the End Times. That's LITERALLY what all of this is about.

Anonymous 52612

>>29213
There's nothing in the Bible about weed.

Anonymous 54986

>>52347

Muslims actually believe that Jesus was a prophet. They just don't think that he was the son of God.

Anonymous 54990

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The channel on youtube "InspiringPhilosophy" answers every single objection raised here in this thread. Jesus loves the sinner, not the sin. You can over come.



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Where do you see yourself ten years from now? Anonymous 54662[Reply]

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Anonymous 54854

>>54829
>it makes me wonder what makes long term desires like the ones in this thread and yours so universal.
In the general case, imageboards attract a selective group of people, while it of course varies in degree, imageboards tend to attract those who socially mal-adjusted. This is why autists (a condition related the impediment of learning and understanding social norms) and schizos (a group usually rejected from society by estrangement) and those with social anxiety are, on average, the stereotype for who posts on imageboards. Furthermore, they are restricted to those with computer access, and, for the sake of crystal cafe specifically, those who were either brought up in an English speaking country, or have been educated enough to speak it as a second language. Finally, to a lesser extent, you find a stratification of intelligence where you find those with very low IQ and those with very high IQ who have been rejected by the general populace that doesn't understand them as well. With this selective pressure in mind, you find that most long-term dreams are similar in ways related to social norms. A lot of long-term dreams will, on average, contain themes of peace(relief from anxiety or depression), relative social reculsion(less stress from social interactions), some form of mastery (conversely, a form of understanding and appreciation for themselves as inviduals), and, usually being socially ill-adjusted but still carrying base desires, a mate that they do not posses or do posses and guard dearly. Conversely, you will very rarely see a post describing someone's dream of being a major socialite, being invited to all kinds of parties and events, traveling around the world, and living in some high profile penthouse apartment.

Land ownership is also common theme as well, but that's common for anyone in the lower or lower-middle class of first world countries, were property is scarce and expensive.

Anonymous 54886

Start an animal sanctuary and a self-sufficient farm.
One can dream, right?

Anonymous 54889

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>>54662
Dead I hope!

Anonymous 54890

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>>54889
Based.

Anonymous 54987

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Realistically, either dead or still wasting away in hopes of getting a good job that pays more than minimum wage someday.

Ideally i would have moved countries, renting a one-bedroom apartment and owning 3 cats. I would have a nice job, no brain fog making me stupid, and it would be possible to finally flirt with girls and not worry about being disowned.



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Anonymous 54850[Reply]

Everyone tells you to go to therapy when you are sexually assaulted. Well I did that and all he did was ask me what happened and say "how does that make you feel". Well what happened is I got raped, and I feel bad because I think it was partially my fault for not being careful.

Thanks therapy, that was no help at all and I had to relive it, again
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Anonymous 54882

Well, I imagine therapists would usually conclude that any kind of self-blaming response is bad. But I don't think disregarding the instinct of "I did something wrong, what could I have done different?" is necessarily good, nor is it something to neglect.

What were you hoping to get out of the therapy session? Were you wanting to be told that there is no way it was your fault? Or perhaps you're looking for validation that yes, you could have avoided it?

The reality is OP, there probably is SOME choice you could have made to change the course of events, and it's good (imo, I'm not a mental health professional of any sort) to try and sort out what are you responsible for, what are they responsible for, etc. So let's do that.

There would be no arguing that the largest causal factor in your assault was the person who decided to assault you. At the end of the day, just as you are entirely responsible for your actions, they are entirely responsible for theirs, and that impetus was entirely on them.

So, recognizing that your choices weren't the biggest factor, what could you have done differently? Plenty, probably; could have been at a different place at that time, perhaps there was an opportunity to call for help that you didn't take, perhaps you could have fought back more, etc. You could split hairs, consider hundreds of permutations where you do something different.

But here's the thing: there is a reason you didn't do those things, then. Humans have a legitimate problem of noticing patterns exclusively in retrospect, and you have to consciously put yourself in the actual position you were in at the time to get a realistic take. In other words, it is VERY easy to feel like you should have seen the signs, when in reality the signs weren't at all obvious, evidenced by the fact you DIDN'T see them. Same deal with the other points: if you felt like you could have fought back harder, for example, it's very likely that you were A. not actually able to (even if, now, you feel like you were able to) and/or B. were prevented by very realistic concerns at that specific time (maybe there was a real threat that fighting back harder, or at all, would make end in failure, and make things worse for you, etc). There is a very real difference between 'should-have' and 'could-have'. Should-have implies there was an expectation to change it; could-have implies simply that you had the ability to. You have to recognize that those thingPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Anonymous 54946

>>54882
holy shit anon… thank you.I'm in the same situation as OP and my therapist has sais shit that rubs me the wrong way,but i couldn't put it into words.It's like he is trying to convince me that i couldn't have done anything differently and that the measures i take to protect myself now are unnecessary,that i'm being irrational

But when every girl i know has been assaulted,is it irrational?Aren't these feelings justified,shouldn't i do what i can to avoid this from happening?Why would i tempt fate and just tell myself it won't happen again?It's so weird and i'm thinking of closing this box and lying to him about feeling better about this one issue

Anonymous 54964

What exactly happened?

Anonymous 54979

>>54882
>Well, I imagine therapists would usually conclude that any kind of self-blaming response is bad. But I don't think disregarding the instinct of "I did something wrong, what could I have done different?" is necessarily good, nor is it something to neglect.
I agree with this.
>>54946
>But when every girl i know has been assaulted,is it irrational?Aren't these feelings justified,shouldn't i do what i can to avoid this from happening?

The healthiest way I had this explained to me, was separating the concept of "fault" and "responsibility", and I had explained to me as thus. Say one day, you hear a knock on your front door, and there's a baby on the floor there. You look around and no one else is around. It's just you and that baby. Is it your fault that a baby is now seemingly abandoned on your doorstep? No. Is it your responsibility to deal with it now that it is? Yes. Similarly, I don't believe it's any victim's fault they were raped or molested. As >>54882 pointed out, but put more simply, hindsight is 20/20. What's important is what you can do now about what's happened, and what you can do in the future. The only other thing I would add on is try not to focus on preventing things from happening, but rather, focus on trying to make other things happen instead. What I mean by this is, for example, instead of thinking of "what places should I avoid to not get raped" it should be "what places make me feel safe."

I dunno, I'm not a therapist obviously lol.

Anonymous 54983

>>54946
Yeah, that does often times seem the attitude, and I can't imagine you could have a more damaging viewpoint of people. "The universe will shit all over you, there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. but at least it wasn't your fault". Literally can't think of a more damaging, disempowering sentiment.

That said, even if his justifications are shit, he is correct in implying that there is a point where you can become maladptively paranoid. Your interactions with people, I sincerely hope to God, typically don't end in sexual assault, and treating every person as if there is a more-likely-than-not chance that they'll assault you sexually will likely see you living a very reduced, unfulfilling life.

At the same time, as you said, pretending like it won't happen again (or that if it will happen, you won't have any control over it, as your lovely therapist implies) won't help either. You'll need to learn to balance the right amount of caution with the trust that the majority of those around you will not assault you sexually.

This idea is simple, but simple doesn't mean easy to apply. I imagine you could spend an entire lifetime refining ways to protect yourself from such scenarios.

For me personally (and I say this as someone that hasn't been sexually assaulted, God forbid, so grain of salt I guess), I would want to passively anticipate it. That is, I want to bolster my ability to react to such a situation, rather than trying to avoid it outright. Learning some kind of martial art, carrying a weapon, reaching a point mentally where 99% of the time I don't have to think about it because I'm confident enough that if the situation starts happening, I'll be both willing and able to defend myself. Perhaps that's just larping, though.

Whatever the case, I sincerely hope you can 'recover' so-to-speak from your experience. Oh, and I wouldn't recommend lying to your therapist, the world is a worse place when people aren't telling the truth. Just be straight with him, tell him that you find his worldview disempowering and masochistic, and that you'll be finding someone else, or just dropping out of therapy over all. (Lmao you don't have to read this verbatim, I'm probably projecting my own beef with him, but just something along those lines)



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Anonymous 54879[Reply]

It happened so i'm a foreigner and English not my native tongue. So i've always wanted to do some oral language practise. Just want to try to speak the language.
Don't know where else to ask, but do you happen to know any places with friendly people?

Anonymous 54881

here. we are all very nice

Anonymous 54887

Hellotalk is an app for language learners with users that are predominantly native English, Korean, Chinese, and Japanese speakers. There's tons of users and you can get good and fast feedback from natives.

Anonymous 54892

>>54881
I know, but i want to try to speak to someone. I think it requires different level of language knowledge.
>>54887
Thank you! I'm going to try this!

Anonymous 54960

Hey anon. You should try looking for language discords. They normally have an audio bit where you can talk to others and practice with your speaking. Hope that helps.



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Anonymous 45661[Reply]

What do you think and how do you feel about short men?
Would you actually date them?
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Anonymous 54388

>>54385
You decided I was deceptive the first time you responded, which is why you used an accusatory tone and not a question. "You are a drug addict?", not "Are you a drug addict?", just because you threw a question mark on the end doesn't hide your intent. So I will humor you, I do not consider myself a drug addict, the dictionary does not, what standards are you measuring by?

Anonymous 54925

>>54244
The differential between the compartmentalized and freeform neurotic is very interesting. Is there any further reading on that?

Anonymous 54929

>>45661

Literally all men I have dated were short, one of them was shorter than me and I'm very short. Never gave a fuck about height honestly

Anonymous 54933

>>53599

This guy looks like a 12yo kid

Anonymous 54941

My husband's 5'5 while I'm 5'4. I was pretty indifferent about it at first, but now I'm really big fan of it (probably helps that he's finally stopped being insecure about it these past few years). I feel like I might even find him hotter if he was shorter than me at this point, haha



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