This thread is full of retards.
>>311970>Does wanting a kid with a higher chance of being like you, entitle you to creating children with another woman's body?Going to play devel's advocate here. Turn the question around. Does a woman having a child entitle her to other people's labor and time? I mean we've already accepted that kids and mothers in need should receive government assistance, which is really just other people's money. So we already agree to expropriate some people's stuff. Why not expropriate a woman's body? Why should those of us who choose to not breed be forced to pay for those who do?
>How can any contract be sufficient to deal with the reality of a child you have some strange half-existing parental rights over existing INSIDE the body of a whole other human beingSo what happens when artificial wombs become commercially available in the next 30 years if we are to believe the transhumanist scum? You do realize your argument, by focusing on the gestational aspect, has no real bearing on the idea of buying a child, right? The core argument here is whether you can buy a genetically related child or not. Adoption is a different story since the baby was likely created consensually. It is very easy to argue that if you are forced to pay for other people's children, you should be entitled to your own. Of course, this argument is wrong, but like I said, stating why its wrong is not optics-friendly.
I've unfortunately had these discussions online when dealing with pro-surrogacy people. Its very difficult optics-wise to tell them, particularly the moids and infertile women, that they work for the benefit of our decisions and have no bearing on whether they reproduce or not. It also adds further fuel to those transhumanist incel freaks like Musk to work on replacing the female/mother aspect of child creation entirely using artificial methods. Effectively cutting us off from our biggest weapon against the male sex (control over child birth). I don't want to imagine a world where moids can completely separate from us and breed their pod grown GMO sons/clones by the billions, raised by AI mothers, like that one scene in the Matrix.
>Human lives should not be created on a commissioned for-profit basis.I agree. We need to ban all human life not
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